Curse

KANE OG · Jun 29, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Noticed that a few young folk decided to post their age on the first page. I think that's a sign of maturity right there. Damn, Zinger, 17 huh? I've seen quite a few of your posts, and you're definately not afraid to express yourself (very intelligently, I might add, although I poke fun sometimes when you get pissy).

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Forty three here, and I tend to rage quite a bit on these forums, but never in game. I play to have fun, I come here to bitch when I don't. Isn't that what Guru is all about?

KANE

Series · Jun 29, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

OMG! That guy iz racist! He haz a diffrent poind of vew tehn me! I am gunna make a topic on GWG to complain abut it lolzzz

DOCB22 · Jun 29, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

to OP: I feel you pain. but It's the summer in America, the "kids" will be back to school in a couple of monts and all will be right with GW,same as last summer untell then keep you head up and keep in mind we were all young once.

p.s. I(37) dont think I was as bad as the kids of today are, most seen to be @ss holes.

Cottage Pie · Jun 29, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

adults are much worse than kids; a 14 year old is basically just mouthing off or copying others and typically they have such dire spelling ya can't take them seriously. But, the older males tend to have well developed mental issues and can be outright vicious and obsessive, I like to throw a good insult at them then insta block, really boils their noodle that does.

Personally, I swear like a nutter in local when I PvX - when interupted i swear, I swear at people hexing me, I swear at wiki-build noobs, I swear at anyone for almost anything. That's simply my temper. There is eloquence in swearing.

Besides, there's a language filter, if for some reason swearing offends you, use it, you'll only end up thinking I have an huge '*' key on my keyboard

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jun 29, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

True, but by their very nature aren't kids immature? It's the idiotic behaviour of various nut jobs that bugs me more than immaturity!

kids' nature is to be immature? a general quality of age doesn't mean it's the "nature" of that age group. "oh yeah 60 year old gw players live in their mom's basements." i think NOT.

The game is online and without monthly fee so you SHOULD expect immaturity regardless of age. It's the internet. You should also expect discriminatory remarks and mentalities like "cheap build you win with two monks i could take you 1v1 nubcake" in the game because first of all, discrimination is present in all age groups and in all parts of the world, we have not achieved a utopia yet (nor ever will), and secondly because there are simply "smart" people who can rise above a loss in RA and "dumb" people who whine and gripe and make a lot of excuses because they can't get this or they can't win that.

Point: Age does NOT matter and by claiming that it is is only a form of discrimination, AGISM.

What I'm wondering is why the hell are 12 year-old and younger kids playing the game? They are exposed to this behavior which they are most likely not capable to handle and will eventually emulate and they are also UNDER THE RATING, which is TEEN+. Not much you can do with a capatalist mind "as long as we make money who cares" idea floating around these days....

<-----15, was 13 when got game tyvm

EDIT: Relambrien i agree with everything in your post and everything you said is right on the dot, ROCKIN

XvArchonvX · Jun 29, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Immature people hurt all online games, but unfortunately, they aren't all kids and as others have said, the worst of them are often 'adults'.

Hexum · Jun 29, 2007, 01:07 AM // 01:07

I understand what your saying about the immaturity of some people. But how is it ruining the game? Most of these bs comments are for attention. The best thing to do is ignore these people and they usually shut up. It doesn't ruin my game or gaming experience when I see this, I just move on to whatever it was i was doing.

cellardweller · Jun 29, 2007, 01:08 AM // 01:08

Form a guild of 30yo+ players in your time zone. Turn of Local. Problem solved.

Nevin · Jun 29, 2007, 01:18 AM // 01:18

I argue back at them, its fun and a refreshing break from AB farming. BOOOOAAAAAH

bart · Jun 29, 2007, 01:21 AM // 01:21

There are many kids in other mmorpgs but you don't see them behaving the way they do in GW. I think its because of a lack of banning for offensive behavious/language thats causing the problem.

For example in WoW if there is somebody steps out of line you can report him and b rest assured that there will be an investigation. in GW, if you report they direct you to the forums to QQ.

Retribution X · Jun 29, 2007, 01:31 AM // 01:31

I'm 15 And I agree.

that's why God invented the ignore list, and the chat toggle buttons...

Bryant Again · Jun 29, 2007, 01:35 AM // 01:35

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Originally Posted by Miral

eh well if the aim of the racism is to hurt and you let them know that you don't like it, I think that is encouraging it... ignoring it they'll see that its ineffective and move on... at least thats how I've always dealt with the less desirable side of society and its usually worked *shrug*

...Or if you ignore them, they'll see that they can get away with saying stuff like that without penalty or punishment.

Depends on the person.

Kale Ironfist · Jun 29, 2007, 01:45 AM // 01:45

It's not so much the younger generation, but immaturity. You can't tag someone in the teenage age bands as immature, simply because you don't know how mature they are. You can, however, have the bias that they are likely to be immature.

As a teenager myself, I've seen the actions of many my own age group and cringed at their thought process.

The underlying reasons why you see these things in game and feel that it is hurting the game is discipline. Because of the no monthly fee format, adolescents can ask to have their parents to buy the game without any further impact to their wallet. This then leads to not using the 'discipline=reward' plan, which encourages good behaviour. What is also contributing to this is the fact that parents are not applying that same plan towards computer use.

Using the argument that 'kids will be kids' is not a good argument, as most of the perpetrators of such immature actions are better described as teenagers or adolescents. Even then, it all boils down to how much control and discipline each individual has, which varies based on life experience since some of them may not even be in that age group.

By the way, I'm eighteen, sixteen when I started playing this game.

MMSDome · Jun 29, 2007, 01:47 AM // 01:47

eh it bothers me all the time. Especially when I AB and when teamates from another party call the other team noobs for losing, its immature and wrong. I always give a whisper to people for saying unkind things when others dont deserve it just because for some reason it bothers me. Morons arent going to make me stop playing the game but they certainly make it a less delightfull GW community.

Vinraith · Jun 29, 2007, 01:57 AM // 01:57

Quote:

...Or if you ignore them, they'll see that they can get away with saying stuff like that without penalty or punishment.

But you're not really in a position to penalize or punish them, all you can really do is yell back. Since most of them are just after attention in the first place, that's just feeding the beast, so to speak.

Incandecree · Jun 29, 2007, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Kids will be kids I agree. However reading the Guild Wars Rules of Conduct it states:

The following rules govern basic interaction within the Guild Wars game and the Guild Wars websites. Please be aware that failure to comply with these rules of conduct may result in the termination of your Guild Wars game account according to the Guild Wars User Agreement.

In addition to these rules of conduct, explicit rules affecting your account may be found in the Guild Wars User Agreement.

While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players.

You may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically offensive language.

You may not post or link to any sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically offensive imagery or content.

Animosity doesn't promote the community wellbeing. The problem is that because of the anonymity that the internet gives it allows those to run rampant spouting anything and everything without the hint of class or common sense.

Does turning off local chat solve the problem? No. Is there an easy solution? No.

Avarre · Jun 29, 2007, 02:02 AM // 02:02

From my view... it's the internet. Taking anyone seriously unless you know they are worth taking seriously is a waste of effort, and only results in agitation.

My ignore list is empty, because I really don't care if people whine or flame at me, it's usually just amusing. Unless it's spam and is blocking my chat window, that's annoying.

Coridan · Jun 29, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26

I will often tell "rude, immature, racist people" what i think about thier comments...and then move them to my ignore list....i usually take them off ignore when I go to another town...because I rarely see the same characters over and over ..... It is the responsiblity of adults and peers of "immature" people to correct them....because once we accept it as the "norm" then it becomes the "norm" for better or worse....thats where we are now....

Oh well its the internet thats the way it is etc etc....I report what i consider "flame" messages that i see on this board...I am not a holier than tho type of person but if I don't take some steps to correct the problem...then i am contributing to the problem.... just my opinion

EDIT: 33 yrs old , father of 3...so i do have some sort of obligation to make sure that my children grow up with a strong set of morals......what they should or should not tolerate...and why

Lt.Crumpet · Jun 29, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35

immature PEOPLE are whats ruining the game, not just the kiddies.

OI-812 · Jun 29, 2007, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by Lt.Crumpet

immature PEOPLE are whats ruining the game, not just the kiddies.

Yeah, well, getting rid of the kids would still be an excellent idea. GTFO MY GUILD WARS YOU BRATS.

After the little twerps are gone, then we go after the big twerps.